“When it comes to the monumental new tax law changes, every company should understand what this means for them. Are there provisions like the R&D tax credit, depreciation for qualified production property or the opportunity zones that your company could take advantage of? If you haven’t heard from your adviser, reach out and ask.” 

In this episode of the Manufacturing Matters podcast, TECH B2B Marketing’s Jimmy Carroll is joined by Bryan Powrozek, partner at Wipfli, to discuss the major tax changes in Public Law 119-21, formally known as the One Big Beautiful Bill, and how they impact automation companies and manufacturers. Powrozek breaks down key provisions, including restored immediate R&D expensing, 100% bonus depreciation, and incentives for new production facilities — and what they mean for cash flow, capital investment, and reshoring efforts. 

In addition, Powrozek shares practical guidance on how companies should respond, from working with advisers to aligning tax strategy with operational goals. For manufacturers evaluating growth plans, understanding these changes could unlock new opportunities to invest, expand, and stay competitive. 

Jimmy Carroll: [00:00:02] Hi, everybody. My name is Jimmy Carroll. I’m the vice president of operations at TECH B2B Marketing. And welcome to this episode of the Manufacturing Matters podcast, where I have the pleasure of being joined by Bryan Powrozek, who’s a partner at Wipfli. Bryan, thanks so much for joining us today. Really appreciate it.

Bryan Powrozek: [00:00:17] Yeah, Jimmy, thanks for having me on.

Jimmy Carroll: [00:00:20] Of course. Yeah. And this is kind of a timely one, right? Because tax season is approaching —— and I don’t have to tell you that, obviously. So to set the stage a little … You and I met years ago at the A3 Vision Show, I believe in Boston —— or maybe Automate —— and at the time we were discussing the importance of the R&D tax credit for the automation space. Fast forward to now and public law number 11921, also known as One Big Beautiful Bill ——

Bryan Powrozek: [00:00:49] Yep.

Jimmy Carroll: [00:00:50] Has a number of important tax implications for automation and machining, metalworking, and manufacturing in general. So, I guess I’ll start by asking: the restoration of the immediate R&D expensing in section 174. Explain that in kind of like common terms and what it means for companies in automation.

Bryan Powrozek: [00:01:17] Yeah. Definitely. And this by far, you know in my opinion, is one of the bigger provisions that impacts automation companies. And so, at a very high level, section 174, that’s the code section that allows the deduction of R&D expenses by a company. Prior to the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, taxpayers always had the option of either capitalizing those expenses or immediately expensing them. Typically, immediate expensing is more beneficial to the taxpayer. It offsets income in the current year. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, effective in 2022, required that taxpayers begin capitalizing and amortizing those expenses over a five or 15 year period. So, as you can imagine, a lot of automation companies who were doing research and development activities now had to take expenses that would have ordinarily been deducted in the current year and spread them out over a five year period. So it had a real negative cash impact for those companies in ’22 and ’23, as they were paying taxes on something that, you know, they weren’t going to see the expense deduction for another four years.

Bryan Powrozek: [00:02:32] So, that really threw some wrenches into a lot of cash flow planning for automation companies during those years. So with the One Big Beautiful Bill has now restored that to immediate expensing. You still have the option to capitalize, but you can immediately expense those. So a lot of the automation companies now are able to kind of get back to kind of the normal cash flow of their operations. And there’s also, depending on how the company addresses those previously capitalized amounts, there’s a couple different options depending on size and a few other factors. They can either have retroactively, which —— by this point, everybody should have filed their 24 tax returns! —— they could have retroactively done it on that return. Or, there’s situations where it carries forward into ’25 and ’26, where now you’re getting the benefit of those expenses from prior years flowing into your current year taxes, which should really just help with cash flow, tax planning, things like that.

Jimmy Carroll: [00:03:40] Yeah. And, you know, in ’25 companies were —— I went to the A3 Business Forum last month. It seems like it was longer ago, but it was just a few weeks ago, really —— and one of the common themes that kind of emerged from there was, in 2025, companies faced a lot of uncertainty, largely because of tariffs, right? They weren’t really sure what to do next with tariffs. And they kind of held things tight to the chest. And for ’26, companies are looking outward and feeling optimistic, thinking like maybe this tariff hangover is lifting a little bit one way or the other. You have to get past that. So, you know, having just another thing to worry about, like you’re talking about here, is a challenge. But now that this is in place, what should companies be doing? And how does it differ between small, medium, large enterprises —— if things change based on size?

Bryan Powrozek: [00:04:36] Sure. That’s a great question. And it’s interesting that you kind of led with that uncertainty piece. And I’ll get on my soapbox for one quick second and then I’ll get back into the tacticals. But it’s interesting. We hear that a lot, right? That’s like,” oh, it’s this tariff issue,” or “it’s supply chain issues during Covid,” or Covid itself. And when I talk to business owners, I try and get them to pivot that mindset, [saying] “hey, this isn’t a new world of uncertainty, right?” Uncertainty has been with us for decades. Now, the way that uncertainty presents itself is going to change. And so clearly building a business that’s agile and can respond to those changes … You know, I live in metro Detroit. I work with a lot of automotive companies. You know, this whole, “are we going electric? Are we not going electric?” back and forth on the seesaw has thrown a lot of companies through quite a planning roller coaster. But that’s the world we’re going to live in now and it’s not going to change. So if you adapt to a mindset of, “well, it’s not just how we get through this tariff thing,” because there’s going to be something else after that.

Bryan Powrozek: [00:05:48] So, really when I use that thought process and that structure of being agile, right?, and doing the right things based on the information you have in front of you, but having a plan that can adapt and change to that. So, specifically as that relates to tax planning, clearly now taxpayers, business owners, don’t have to worry about, “hey, if I do this, if I do this R&D project, it’s now going to drive this huge …” So, not only am I laying out cash to do the R&D, but I’m going to lay out extra cash for my taxes. So that piece is off the table now. So that’s good. Companies can really forecast better how their cash flow is going to go. But it also creates the opportunity … There were there were a lot of clients or companies —— again, right or wrong, I’m not judging their motivations —— who avoided the R&D tax credit, because if you claim the R&D tax credit, you were by default raising your hand and saying, “I have R&D expenses and therefore need to capitalize and amortize.” So now that that piece has gone away, companies who aren’t currently claiming the credit, but are performing research activities, should give that some consideration, because that’s an easy way to free up some additional cash flow to reinvest in your business.

Bryan Powrozek: [00:07:14] You talked about large versus medium versus small. You know, there’s some subtle nuances to kind of how the strategy changes  based on size. But, usually it’s just, you’re bigger you’re getting bigger deductions, right? You’re profitable. You’re a larger company, so your R&D spend is going to be higher, therefore your credit could be higher. So really it’s working with an advisor. Being  an entrepreneur, a business owner, a business leader is hard enough without trying to learn everything else that goes on around business. So having a good advisor who can take you through this and say, “hey, I see your goal is this. Here’s how you best structure or set up your tax position to accomplish those objectives.” And so R&D can be one piece of that. I know in our planning here, we talked about some of the depreciation changes in the law. That’s another piece that can come into understanding how your operational strategy can potentially impact your tax strategy.

Jimmy Carroll: [00:08:25] And I’m realizing, Bryan —— this is my fault —— that I neglected to ask you to kind of introduce your company at the beginning and, obviously, in the description of this podcast, it’ll be clear. But, maybe if we could just take a second to do that, it would give a little additional context.

Bryan Powrozek: [00:08:42] Sure, sure. So, Wipfli is a top 20 accounting and advisory firm. I think we tend to lead with the accounting work. So we’re talking a lot about taxes here, but, kind of at our core, we’re an accounting firm that, as we’ve grown has added on the advisory capabilities that our clients need. I personally sit within our manufacturing, retail and distribution practice. So I work with a lot of manufacturers, system integrators, automation companies, things like that. And really trying to help take what we know about running a successful business and help the business owners or the leaders then apply that within their own facts and circumstances. So that’s our core competency. Really where we bring the most value is the small- to mid-size, privately held businesses. We do work with some larger ones, [so] that’s not to say we can’t play there. But I feel like, at least in my practice and the companies I work with, getting companies in that 10 to 25 up to a couple hundred million in revenue —— there’s a lot of levers we can pull and help them move forward to get to that next step and growth.

Jimmy Carroll: [00:10:05] Yeah I appreciate it. I’m sorry about that.

Bryan Powrozek: [00:10:08] No it’s okay.

Jimmy Carroll: [00:10:09] I want to ask kind of the same question I asked you before in terms of, tell us what it means for companies in automation with regards to the reinstatement of 100% bonus depreciation?

Bryan Powrozek: [00:10:25] Sure, sure. And when you think about really any of these things —— the R&D tax credit, bonus depreciation, and the several other provisions we’ll kind of touch on here —— the Congress is trying to incentivize a behavior. Right? So the behavior —— think about your your own personal behavior: if you own a home and you can deduct the mortgage interest, that’s because they want to incentivize home ownership. So, similarly, here with the depreciation, they’re trying to give manufacturers —— I mean really give any business owner, but thinking here in the manufacturing context —— an incentive to invest in new equipment, new capacity, new capabilities, etc.. So what a bonus depreciation does is, it essentially allows you to deduct the entire value of a new asset in the first year, as opposed to spreading it out over three, five, seven years, depending on what the depreciation guidelines say. So in practice, it is now just a kind of, more of a cash-flow management tool, right? I know if I’m going to spend this money this year, I’m going to see the real tax benefit this year versus over the depreciable life. So, again, part of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, it was phasing out bonus depreciation. The percentage was kind of continuing to drop down. But now this restores it back up to 100% on qualifying assets. You know, there’re always some rules around what qualifies, and what doesn’t. But if an asset qualifies for that treatment, you can take the entire, deduct the entire value in the first year, which should help with cash flow and tax planning.

Jimmy Carroll: [00:12:12] Yeah. I want to circle back a little bit to when I was talking about the idea that a lot of companies are feeling optimistic towards 2026 and some of the prognostications for the year are positive. Right? Expected growth in robot adoption, mobile robot adoption, machine vision, all these other enabling technologies within the automation space. But we also talked a lot about some major investments in the United States in manufacturing and production, kind of reshoring and this whole resurgence of U.S. manufacturing. Do you feel like these tax implications we’re talking about today —— and I know there’s a couple more we’ll get to —— but do you think these will have a positive impact on that? And maybe get some of these smaller companies to start rethinking their strategy?

Bryan Powrozek: [00:13:03] Oh, without a doubt. You know, I think a lot of the provisions that were in the One Big Beautiful Bill are geared towards that. And this isn’t new to the Trump administration. The Biden administration wanted to build up the manufacturing base here in the U.S. And I think that, for various reasons, folks are seeing the importance of bringing  … If it’s not reshoring, it’s nearshoring. You know, get it to Mexico, get it to Canada. But, yeah, I think a lot of the lessons learned over the last five years have said, “hey, the global supply chain, while it offers some benefits, it also has some drawbacks as well.” And I’ll leave that to other people to debate those pros and cons. But a lot of these provisions really do help support that idea of expanding U.S. R&D capabilities, expanding U.S. manufacturing capabilities. So you think about that. We talked about the bonus depreciation? So if you’re a manufacturer and you’re looking at this and saying, “gosh, I see this big opportunity here for me in ’26, but I’m going to need more press capacity. I’m going to need more molding capacity.” Whatever it might be. Now you have a motivation to make those investments in the fixed assets you’re going to need.

Bryan Powrozek: [00:14:26] Similarly, you know, I mentioned reshoring or nearshoring. But there’s a new provision within the bill that is trying to incentivize the production of new manufacturing facilities. So, historically, if you buy a building, build a building, whatever it might be, that would become a long-term asset, right? So now you’re depreciating that over 39 years, at least the building piece of it, not the land. So you’re really spreading out the time that you’re getting to deduct that. Well, now, if it’s qualified production property —— and again, nothing simple in the tax code! There’s always lots of different rules and qualifiers to determine what meets the criteria for qualified production property —— but if it is qualified production property, you can get 100% of that depreciation upfront. So now you think about that. That’s helping near-term cash flowing. So you’re spending all this money to build the building and get it ready for use. And now you’re not going to have to worry about paying tax on any profits as you’re getting that building up and running and filling it up and doing those things. So it shifts around your tax bill. Now, 39 years from now, you’ve depreciated the building and you’re not going to have the tax benefit. But the thought being, you’re helping now and giving an incentive to put the facility in place now, and then the company can deal with those ramifications in the future. So, yeah, that piece in particular on the qualified production property is really geared towards getting companies to either expand capabilities in the US, open new capabilities in the US, whatever it might be. But that qualified production property element will really help spur some of that behavior.

Jimmy Carroll: [00:16:27] I mean, yeah, all this stuff just seems sort of enormously positive for the manufacturing space —— and for businesses like yours too. It’s going to help a range of different companies. And kind of what you’re thinking, I’m picturing a lot of these small- to medium-sized companies that maybe have been averse to big capital investments in the past, now saying, “well, you know, it’s a little bit easier now,” in some ways anyway.

Bryan Powrozek: [00:16:53] Yeah, definitely. And even, you know —— I don’t like getting too far in the weeds on some of these because it’s ultimately that’s what… When I talk with clients, I’m like, “that’s what you pay me for.” Like, you don’t need to be the expert on the tax law. We have the team that figures that out. But there’s another element of the bill that deals with the interest deductions. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act put an interest limitation in place on how much interest you could deduct during the year. That’s been refigured to allow more interest to be deductible before you hit that limitation. So to your point, if I’m a business owner and I’m considering going out and building a building or buying a piece of equipment, I’m going to finance it. If I knew on the back end I wasn’t going to get the full expense, be able to deduct the full amount of that interest because of this limitation? Well, [then] there’s a little bit less motivation to do it versus now that that interest limitation is higher. So it should encourage businesses and companies to take on some financing if that’s what’s needed to keep their plans moving forward. So again, yeah, really, really friendly towards investment, growing capacity, which, you know, hopefully, as the theory goes, if I create capacity, I can hire people. And now, I’m creating jobs, I’m doing all these other things. So yeah, we’re pretty excited about what we’re seeing. I know my clients are excited about it. They’re hearing a lot of, kind of what you talked about. I think we’ve all weathered the tariff uncertainty. I mean, things are still changing today, as it goes along, but I think we’ll see less of that throughout this year. So it gives a little more confidence in planning for what comes next.

Jimmy Carroll: [00:18:51] Yeah. And to your point, uncertainty from tariffs, it’s like, well, even if we get past that, what’s next? In the last five or six years, like you said, it’s been Covid. It’s been labor. The labor shortage is not going away. There’s political uncertainties. There’s always going to be something. So you kind of have to adjust to that and move on and adapt. And that seems to be everybody’s mindset now, which is a positive one, right?

Bryan Powrozek: [00:19:20] Oh yeah. And that’s where I tie back to this, you know, adapting your business to being agile. Being able to adjust to these things. I always give the example, I have a client here that is, again, heavily automotive, heavily involved in die casting. And so when Biden was elected, the world was ending because everything was going to go EV and his customers were all making internal combustion engine components and it’s the end of the world. Well, through that, they found well, a lot of the EVs were going to rely on die cast parts to accommodate weight and other things. So now he’s getting all these new opportunities. And then, as this election was approaching, he’s like, “oh, if Trump gets elected then all the EV stuff’s going to go away!” And it’s like, “well, yeah, it might.” And that’s where you can’t tie yourself to a government program or a government incentive. I mean, obviously, they’re there and you’ve got to factor those into your decision-making process. But because things can change now with the stroke of an executive order, don’t count on that. Factor it into your strategy. But also be ready to adjust when the next administration comes in or even right in the midterm elections, if the Republicans lose control of one of the houses of Congress. Then we’re right back to a stalemate, and you’re not going to be able to get some of these things through. So you can’t let that be the thing that prevents you from from achieving your goals as a business owner.

Jimmy Carroll: [00:20:57] Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it sounds like, remaining agile and being adaptive to change is one of things that you’re preaching to your clients. And I know you can’t get too granular, but what are some things … If you have one or two or three pieces of high-level advice for companies when it comes to taking advantage of these —— not “taking advantage of,” but making sure that these tax implications can benefit them. What do you tell them to do? Where do they start?

Bryan Powrozek: [00:21:28] Yeah. You know, I always like to to counsel my clients to first understand their business. Right? Understand, if you’ve got multiple product lines, which are the profitable ones, which are the ones that may not be as profitable, but you still need them because it gets you into a certain market, or gets you into a certain customer? So really understand your business first and then let that educate some of these other decisions. We talked a lot about some of the tax elements of the One Big Beautiful Bill. So think about that, just bonus depreciation, right? I get to take 100% of the deduction now, which means I’m giving up that deduction in the future. So if I’m operating at a certain level of profit, do I really need that deduction this year? Should I defer that? Should I keep the normal depreciation and just get a little bit of expense each year? That all factors into the decision on whether these things are done or not. And I think, oftentimes, these things kind of happen in a vacuum, right? I’m your CPA. You give me your financial information, I go away. I make my decisions on the tax return and kind of present the results to you and explain what I did. But, you know, ultimately, you’re hoping I’m doing what’s best for the business.

Bryan Powrozek: [00:22:56] So, making sure you understand where you are, where you want to get to, and then have advisors who are going to have those conversations with you, and have you be part of those conversations, not just come in and say, “well, I’m the CPA, I know best. This is what you’re going to do.” Because you may have some thought in your head of, “hey, I really want to do this, but I don’t want to make the capital investment, so I’m going to take that off the table.” Well, then you talk to your CPA or some other business advisor and they say, “well, yeah, but you’re going to get to deduct that this year, which now frees up this cash. So now you’re going to have more money to reinvest back in the business.” And maybe it becomes part of a kind of a holistic plan. You can’t really—— maybe that’s more the point I’m trying to get to, is you can’t do these things in silos. They all … Something that you do on the operation side will impact the tax side will impact the human resource side, you know, because maybe then you’ve got to hire people, right? And do we have enough folks in the area that we can hire to fill this need? So, everything needs to work in concert. Otherwise it’ll start to fall apart.

Jimmy Carroll: [00:24:02] Yeah. Fair enough. That’s really good. I think we’ve probably talked about some of the major tax implications, but are there other provisions in the bill that companies in manufacturing and automation need to know about in your opinion?

Bryan Powrozek: [00:24:18] Yeah. So I mean, we talked about the depreciation stuff. There’s another section of depreciation referred to as 179. You know, that’s just another way of accelerating depreciation, so you should be confirming if you’re doing that, if it makes sense with your tax advisor. The qualified production property for any manufacturer considering an expansion, a new building, anything like that, they should really look into that. That will help things. There is for any companies that are pass-through in nature —— so, a partnership, an S Corp —— there was a provision in the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act known as the 199A deduction. It was essentially meant to kind of equalize … They reduced the corporate rate. The C Corp tax rate was reduced. So to kind of pass that same benefit along to the individual business owners who the pass-throughs, there tax flows through to their personal return. So that was made permanent. So that’s a good piece that takes one question mark off the table of, “is this going to be around or not?” There were some other things, you know, depending on the location. Some renewal of Opportunity Zone programs and some other changes to them. So again, depending on the specific geography of where you’re located, where you’re operating, where you’re considering expanding, some of these qualified Opportunity Zones add some additional incentives.

Bryan Powrozek: [00:25:59] Those are all very specific, so it’s not something I can give a great high-level example of, but that’s something to look at. And if you know that you’re working in an Opportunity Zone and you’re working with the economic development team of that region, they’ll probably be able to point you to those types of things. The one that is a little bit negative, I guess, depending on how you want to look at it —— and people may have heard —— but a lot of the energy tax credit incentives were being phased out or eliminated as a result of the new bill. So, that is something where there’s a deduction for energy efficient commercial building, equipment, and things like that. Those projects have to be started by June 30th of this year in order to still claim the value of that credit. So really, if you’re looking at those or if you’ve been kind of sitting on the sidelines saying, “hey, maybe we could take advantage of this,” you’ve really got to act fast to make sure you can take advantage of that. I think those would be some of the main ones that I can think of just kind of off the top of my head.

Jimmy Carroll: [00:27:21] Yeah, that last bit was probably very useful for a lot of people. Are there any other sort of deadlines that people need to know about, besides the obvious ones, when it comes to this tax season.

Bryan Powrozek: [00:27:36] You know, I think probably one of the biggest ones? If you know that your business was subject to the Section 174 capitalization in prior years and if you haven’t had a conversation with your tax preparer about that, really getting in front of them to understand how you’re going to remediate that. Right? There’s still the ability to go back and amend, but at this point you’re probably doing this prospectively. So really understanding from them, because there’s still … Even with that, you can take all of the remaining capitalized expenses as a deduction in ’25, or you can spread it out over ’25 and ’26. A lot of that comes back to, you know, “hey, what are we projecting for?” You know, our ’25 taxes versus our ’26 taxes. Does it make sense to take it now or take it now and later? And I would hope by this point, most business owners and leadership teams have had this kind of outreach from their tax advisor. If you haven’t, because of the enormity of the bill and what it did to overhaul the tax code, make sure you’re getting in front of them and understanding how how they’re seeing this bill, how it impacts your business, and how your business can take advantage of it.

Bryan Powrozek: [00:29:04] Because that’s the other… You know, it’s funny, I hear that, within my clients, that there aren’t enough people. And the same is probably true in your profession. Same is true in our profession, right? There’s just more work than there is people to do it. So I don’t think it’s negligence on the providers part. I think it’s just, there’s more work. And when something of this monumental change comes into place, sometimes things fall through the cracks and clients don’t get the outreach that they deserve. So if you haven’t heard from your advisor, definitely reach out and ask what this means for you? And are there provisions, like the qualified production property or the Opportunity Zones, that your company could take advantage of based on things that you’re trying to accomplish? You know, this year and in coming years.

Jimmy Carroll: [00:29:54] I mean, I think right there, you kind of boiled down the entire discussion. It’s like, make sure that you’re aware of all these things, make sure you’re taking advantage and just staying up to date, right?

Bryan Powrozek: [00:30:05] Yeah. And I would say that’s true of, you know, whether you’re talking about your CPA, your attorney, your banker, whoever it might be. Like, the days of us just being the compliance team are over, right? If I’m not kind of a part of your team and helping you with planning and finding those things, there’s plenty of other providers out there that are going to be willing to do that. So, make sure that you’ve got that right team assembled around you that can … I like to tell my clients —— again, I work with a lot of system integrators —— I’m like, “you would not call me to design your control system,” right? I’m not the guy. So you focus on the control system. I’ll focus on the tax and finance and accounting side of your business, and help you build something that gets to where you want to be. Yeah. It’s fun. I enjoy it a lot, but it definitely gets challenging at times.

Jimmy Carroll: [00:31:08] Well, yeah, especially with big changes like this one. I was going to ask you about a few things, but we kind of covered them organically, like with reshoring and the impact on US manufacturing. So, Bryan, is there anything else we haven’t talked about that you feel like you’d want to get out there?

Bryan Powrozek: [00:31:27] I think we hit a lot of the stuff on the bill. I mean, I would probably just go back to something I commented on earlier. I see this a lot from the small manufacturing company as they’re progressing and growing … Really get to know your business and take a look at it through a critical lens, right? Because that’s ultimately how you’re going to be able to judge if the new process you implement is working, if the new technology you implement is working, if the new customer segment you’re going after is working, is really starting with understanding your business and what makes it work, what you know, what you do best, and then using that as the center point to kind of evaluate everything else. If you don’t have that perspective —— and I know, believe me, I work with enough entrepreneurs to know that they kind of they go off on their own and they’ve got this great widget that they know how to design and sell. And then next thing you know, they’re getting orders from everywhere and they’re just trying to keep themselves afloat and take advantage of the opportunity in front of them.

Bryan Powrozek: [00:32:47] But it cannot be undersold. The importance of understanding how the business operates, learning the numbers. I think every business owner starts looking at cash flow, right? “If I got enough cash in the bank to make payroll, I’m doing good. If it starts to go down, I got problems.” Start there, but then build, add on to it. “What’s the next key performance metric I can look at. Then what’s the next one that I can look at.” But all that again comes back to knowing your business and knowing what makes it profitable, what makes it run. And again, it doesn’t have to be you that figures that out. There’s folks out there, like ourselves and lots of other good service providers, who can help you go through that process and figure out how to grow your business to the point that you want to get it to. Because, ultimately it’s been done before. It’s been done by somebody else. Right? So you just need to find the path that they used and save yourself some time and headaches trying things that haven’t worked in the past.

Jimmy Carroll: [00:33:52] Well on that note I would encourage everyone, if they have questions for Bryan, reach out on LinkedIn. Check out Wipfli on LinkedIn. It’s wipfli.com.

Bryan Powrozek: [00:34:04] We’ve got a lot of different resources on the website, particularly, you can kind of drill down by industry. So, if you get into our manufacturing area, you’ll see a lot … We have, gosh, I could probably take up another hour telling you about all the different things we do for companies. But, within our industry sections, we really try to group it the way that business owners would think about it. “Hey, I’ve got a human resource challenge,” or “I’ve got a data and analytics challenge,” whatever. So, that’s probably the best way I’d encourage people to look at our site and try and see if there’s anything we can help with. And, yeah, I’m always happy to speak to owners and leadership teams. So connect with me on LinkedIn. You can connect with me through the Wipfli website. Happy to talk. I just love hearing about what business owners are doing and what they’re trying to do and how they’re trying to get there, and it just makes me be a better advisor for my clients because I hear more, I see more, and I have more opportunity to do that.

Jimmy Carroll: [00:35:08] Bryan, I really appreciate it. If anybody has questions out there for Bryan or for us, or comments on the podcast, or if you want to join an episode … It’s Manufacturing-Matters.com. And again, Bryan, thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

Bryan Powrozek: [00:35:21] No, Jimmy, thank you for bringing me on. I really enjoyed it.

Jimmy Carroll: [00:35:24] Absolutely. Thanks again.

Bryan Powrozek: [00:35:26] Thank you.